As long as your failing doesn't turn into a sigularity and happens to kill the server, I don't care lolz.

Btw Nox, time paradoxes

You cannot intentionally change the past, for if you achieve your goal, you would not have travelled back into the past to achieve it and therefore your action did not take place.

You cannot affect your own life, or any other event leading to your birth. Killing yourself, or preventing yourself from being born will prevent you from going into the past and ending your life. Therefor, the mistake you made is rectified.

Do you see my logic (we had like a 50 minute debate in class today when we were working on our Practical Assignment (guess the subject I chose..) and hardly anyone agreed with me. Well two did in the end, after a long discussion).

Okay, first of all I aced all my tests.

And that time discussion. Do you remember my theory on the matter? That not only would a time device have to somehow reconfigure the flow of time, but since time is relative to space, you must put all the matter back in the right place, including yourself to truely have time travel. If a machine achieves this, nothing will happen. Say we have a rubber band that is stretched. Say on one end we have time and on the other we have space. If we stretch time (analogous to changing the flow of time) and try to time travel, (i.e. letting the rubber band go)
it will snap back into place. Time&Space will revert back say twenty years and continue on the same course. So in the eyes of the people making the device, nothing happens. But, if you do somehow take out the matter you were made of before you were born and swapped it in with the matter you are composed of now, then it would work. But you would be destroying the present and creating a new one. You COULD shoot your father because you exist as matter in the past not in the future. MYSTERY SOLVED.

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This topic should be renamed to "The Make Yourself Fail" thread. Why? It makes me think I fail after seeing all this shit I don't understand. =(

Watch the programs on the history & science channel. That old Kaku will help you out.

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As long as your failing doesn't turn into a sigularity and happens to kill the server, I don't care lolz.

EPIC PHYSICS JOKE FTW!!!!

Finally, that theory we discussed. I found my notebook but discovered it was part of my earlier works dealing with how parallel Universe could actually have genetic traits defining their laws and how they are parallel. String theory in my eyes is useless, but I may be able to adapt my theory into a new one.

We discussed the laws, and physics "traits" of our Universe. Are we assuming our Universe is the only one and has been collapsing and expanding continuously? Or are we talking about multiple Universes. (I have nothing against multiple Universes, just parallel ones and that idiotic string theory)

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I am sorry to report I have destabilized the relative speed of some photons, which caused an immediate singularity to form. Then, the singularity pulled itself away from the space-time continuum and destroyed a local trailer park. I hope my insurance covers this.

I don't know, if there even are other universes, we probably wouldn't be able to see them unless we managed to travel outside of the dimensions.

I also cannot see how you can kill your dad that way. (That theory DOES sort of clear up the intentional part).
If you go back and time and somehow kill your dad before you were conceived/sired w/e then how could you have existed in the first place? Thus, how could you have gone back in time and kill your dad?

So that means we are going to start our theory with the assumption that our Universe is the only one. If that does not work out, we can adapt our theories for multiple Universes.

Let's start with the scenario of the Big Bang. All the forces are combined. (Possible God or Mother Particle) time is running all over the place, all the matter is contained in the singularity.

I have an idea. Let's assume that there is a mother particle that "gave birth" to all elementary particles we know. I have a theory that the gravitons, photons, taus, if combined, will form a new particle. Wild idea, but it has potential to be right. Hell, that's what happens in physics.

Perhaps the strength and "type" of the forces originate from the way the mother particle was split apart. But a troubling thought comes into mind. That even if their is only one Universe, then it is most likely that the singularity (if it did not come from God) existed in a different form before that one. The specific thing about that (if it is true) is we physicists must theorize a theory of everything from a middle beginning.

Also, on the time travel thing, did you not read the specific concepts of my theory? Time and space must be returned to the previous placement. If you somehow altered the positioning of the rest of the matter and avoided doing the same to yourself, nothing would happen in your eyes because you are only altering the time around yourself personally. But there is another option. If you collected all the data that makes you, you (assuming we have no soul) then you could implant that into the matter that will eventually become you, so you can walk around in the past. Once you do that, you cease to become a direct pathway of that timeline. Your father of that time line was not the one of the previous time line. Your origin would not be from a father but the instance you "beamed" yourself into matter in the time altered time period. So, in effect, you could shoot your father, because he would not really be your father, even though he would be exactly like him.

This would be called not time travel, but time alteration. You could do whatever you want and change the time-line, but as I previously stated, your technology needs to be pretty damn advanced to do so. But if you screw something up, make sure you save the coordinates of time flow and matter placement for the preferable Universe. Otherwise, you may find yourself in a scenario like Back to the Future.

Ah, that's a bit clearer. But the guy created in the past would not be you, so technically you don't kill your dad.

But still, if that other you kills your dad won't it prevent you from being born and thus prevent you from beaming you information into the past?

The multiverse theory? No.

But thanks for clearing that up about the time travel. You will be quoted in my school project.

Not the multi-verse one. The theory we were supposed to develop together, remember?

Well, I am applying our time discussion to our theory. What if there is one Universe that has been expanding and recollapsing, acting as a circle of life for our Universe. But, scientists today have concluded that the expansion of the Universe will result in the "big tear" tearing the fabric of space time. I hypothize when that happens, space will become almost completely pulled away from time. But, as I stated before, imagine space & time being part of one rubber band. As they are stretched apart, the will shoot back at each other. I believe this may cause time (not back to the time our Universe began, for this will be a different one) to force the Universe back to the period of the big bang. It wouldn't be time travel, just the Universe resetting itself. I believe anything would and could be different, and that is the premise of our theory. How laws in the reformed Universe change relative to those before it?

Also, for the assignment, get an A on it, or I will feel like a total douche.
I am thinking about what we discussed here in the next issue of the school newspaper (already have a physics/computer science discussion there)

ALSO, BIG SCIENTIFIC UPDATE (I AM WRITING IN ALL CAPS TO CONTAIN MY EXCITEMENT) NASA HAS DISCOVERED A POCKET OF METHANE GAS OVER THE SURFACE OF MARS. THERE ARE ONLY TWO OPTIONS TO WHAT THIS COULD BE. (alright, that is enough of caps for a while) One, it could be a volcano we have not discovered yet. Two, a large life form or microbial ones that are emitting methane as they normally do on Earth.

About the rubber band part, if you keep on stretching it, it will snap at some point. But I think we're heading in the wrong direction by clinging onto the rubber band. I don't know where I read it, but somewhere it stated that the universe would have to expand at something *10^66 to overcome the gravitational force. Seeing as the galaxies are moving at light speed now, perhaps the singularity is slowly pulling the matter back in. (just a wild guess there though).

My money is on the microbial life forms, we've seen enough of those on Mars (mostly fossilized) and I don't believe they would have missed something as big as an active volcano. An active volcano could actually be good, perhaps if there is one, there might some life to found in the vicinity. (hell, perhaps there is a whole advanced race, clinging onto that volcano to support them idfk).

If time was created by the big bang, then yes, a time tear is possible. What the effect of this phenomenon would be, we do not know. Perhaps, at a certain moment, the outer layer of the universe simply rips off and becomes a doughnut universe (if it does not reset itself) of its own.

Scrap that.. that would mean that time would become more stretched for the remaining universe.

If time was already present before the big bang, then the time and space would not be affected by the growth of the universe. Time and space could then theoretically infinite or limited. If the universe grows until those boundaries, it could be possible that the universe resets or matter is redirected to the singularity from it originally came from. Thereby creating an endless universe. (another wild guess, but that's what we have to do in order to get somewhere).

Any preference as to how I will call you in the project? Noxstant, your real name or some alias?

How about an 10 (100%/A+) for the project?

Also, good luck on getting the discussion into the school newspaper. (be sure to send me a digital copy of that part 'k? ^_^

Returning to the old subject, I cannot see how the Mother Particle is a feasible idea. First of all, what would cause it to split if it's the only particle present. Unless it is a highly unstable particle, there's no way that would have happened. Second, where would that single particle come from?

You must remember that the mother particle would form ONLY when the Universe is recollapsed into a singularity. That would mean gravitons (theoretically) + photons (electromagnetic) + tau + the other nuclear force particle. As you stated earlier, a new set of laws of physics would form in the singularity. Perhaps in the singularity the laws of physics become turned off. The trick to seeing if this theory is plausible is seeing if one can come up with a way to find out what the past Universe was right using the data we have now. (kinda like looking at the genes of a child produced by a hermaphroditic parent)

There's one problem with the graviton, it is believed that it has a mass of 0. How could that be coming from a mother particle?

Hmmm. That is true. But look at the photon. It has no mass, but a lot of energy. (I think)

How about this : Gravity was the force created when all the forces came together. And when the mother particle was split by a time fluctuation, the resulting release of the explosion could have produced an "Empty-shell" mother particle that has been drastically altered by having an almost zero number of particles. That would explain the weakness of gravity and perhaps why gravity is all over the space-time continuum. But take note this is a wild idea, but that is what we must do to find the truth.

How about splitting down the mother particle into several sub particles.
This would include highmassed particles and lowmassed particles.

Lowmassed particles would be the particles providing the spin, when the mothers were split apart, the low massed particles also formed one with a mass which is extremly low or non existent. This could lead to the graviton.

The problem we are facing here is our current knowledge, we do not know every single quantum particle that exists so it would be impossible for us to create an (accurate) picture of the so called mother particle. Perhaps there is another particle which brings in a whole new factor that needs to be thought off.